This website uses cookies to ensure you have the best experience. Learn more

Plato's Thoughts On Poetry From The Republic

1580 words - 6 pages

Sonia AlexanderTexts & Ideas: This World and the NextEssay Prompt #69/18/2014Plato's Condemnation of The Wolf of Wall StreetIn the Republic, Plato outlines and justifies his reasons for banishing poetry in his envisioned just city. Plato fears that the desires and hankerings of society are easily manipulated and influenced by poetry, and this fear is validated by the recent Hollywood blockbuster The Wolf of Wall Street. This film appeals to the desiring part of the soul which Plato deems must be controlled in all citizens for the just city to be plausible.Plato reckons that envisaging denotes the lowest form of thinking and its objects fabricate the lowest degree of truth. Plato upholds that paintings, sculptures, and other forms of art are examples of shadows of real objects and can only be known through perception. Socrates explains that the "Painter, couch maker, God-these preside over three forms of couches" (597b). The three kinds of couches include the one that is in nature, the one that the carpenter produced, and the one that the painter produced. God constructs the couch in its purest form, followed by the carpenter who attempts to physically recreate God's object. The painter, separated from the original object by 2 degrees, can only paint a replication of the carpenter's imitation to the best of his ability. He will never be able to perfectly replicate the original object created by God because he can only imitate an imitation of the real object. Plato maintains that "imitation is surely far from the truth" (598c) and makes the analogy between the painter and the poet. The poet, in this sense, is the painter, and the couch is human experience. The poet, like the painter, can only project "works [that] are third from what is" (599a). This is a threat to society because men are susceptible to being deceived by these imitators, and are unable to distinguish between what appears as the truth and what actually is the truth.Plato further expounds on this point by declaring that many stories are not imitations of reality but rather outright fallacies. If contemporary poetry were held to Plato's standards, the film industry would indubitably go out of business. The recent blockbuster The Wolf of Wall Street is the epitome of the vituperative form of poetry that Plato strongly asserts must be eradicated. This picture of 1980's greed and excess emulates three hours of continuous drug overuse, an abundance of hookers, and an excessive amount of money and private property. Belfort, simultaneously a protagonist and antagonist, cons both the rich and the poor, all the while overdosing on Quaaludes and cocaine and imperiling the lives of every person he's intimately connected to. In Book II, Adeimantus states that "they are ready and willing to call happy and to honor bad men who have wealth or some other power and to dishonor and overlook those who happen in some way to be weak or poor" (364a). This film is a celebration of a licentious...

Find Another Essay On Plato's Thoughts on Poetry from The Republic

Defining the Ideal in Plato's The Republic

763 words - 3 pages Defining the Ideal in Plato's The Republic   In 1921, Vance Palmer, the famous Australian author and poet, noted, in his essay titled "On Boundaries", that "it is the business of thought to define things, to find the boundaries; thought, indeed, is a ceaseless process of definition".  As Palmer noted, humans, by their very nature, attempt to define all things.  But, more than that, we attempt to redefine subjects and ideas

Plato's The Republic and The Old Testament

2333 words - 9 pages Plato's The Republic and The Old Testament A Buddhist teaching suggests that practicing Buddhism is like taking a raft over a great river. One riverbank represents the realm of ‘samsara,’ the cycle of suffering that we are all spinning around in. On the other side is ‘wakefulness,’ or ‘nirvana,’ an enlightened state of awareness characterized by an infinite sense of unity and bliss. The raft symbolizes Buddhism; its purpose being to help

The Ethical Egoist in Plato's Republic

1140 words - 5 pages addresses the problem through the words of Socrates. I will use this paper to explain and clarify the arguments for and against the concept of ethical egoism, with specific focus on the political problem it poses and the proper approach to addressing that problem, in terms of Plato's social philosophy. Before addressing the specific issue of ethical egoism, it is first important to understand the context of The Republic and what Plato was

The Forms in Plato's Republic and Meno

1638 words - 7 pages Plato was an ancient Greek philosopher who, with teachings from his mentor, Socrates, helped establish the foundations of Western philosophy. Not only was Plato a brilliant thinker, but he also studied mathematics and was an excellent writer. Many of his philosophical ideas are contained in Dialogues, texts that encompass the basic teachings learned from Socrates as well as his own innovative thoughts. These writings take the form of

Knowledge of Good in Plato's The Republic

970 words - 4 pages of utopia lies on the fundamental premise that the philosopher who has seen the light will "either in public or private life" fix his eye on this light (517c). In other words, he believes that the philosopher who has attained the idea of good will necessarily become good. But there is no justification for such a belief (at least not in the allegory) and hence, his idea is not obviously sound. Work Cited Plato. Republic. Trans. Benjamin Jowett. 8 Jan. 2001. .

Plato's view of Justice in The Republic

2931 words - 12 pages own rather than a commentary on Socrates beliefs and sayings.It is important to remember that Plato's time was an age of constant upheaval and it is this air of upheaval and constant change that led him to focus on his societies' failings and to put forward a structured society that puts his view of justice into practice.The main theme of The Republic is to define justice and other virtues and to put forward an idea for a Utopian city-state based

Comparing Contemporary Politics to Plato's "The Republic"

1197 words - 5 pages Contemporary politics seems to more closely reflect Thraysmachus’ view of justice more so than Plato’s. Contemporary is defined as belonging to the present time adding on to it, politics, which are decisions and actions between parties with power. In “The Republic”, Socrates asks Thraysmachus to give him the answer to his question of what justice is. Thraysmachus was a sophist, who charged people for wisdom. The battle of seeking the true

Thoughts on the Mikado

1436 words - 6 pages you're giving a treat (penny ice and cold meat) to a party of friends and relations - They're a ravenous horde - and they all came on board at Sloane Square and South Kensington Stations. And bound on that journey you find your attorney (who started that morning from Devon); He's a bit undersized and you don't feel surprised when he tells you he's only eleven.... The Mikado has nothing quite to match it, though the Mikado's own favourite

Thoughts on THE GIFT

1339 words - 5 pages paragraph "No one expected Merceditas Cáceres, on the day Carlotta Rodriguez was expelled from the Sacred Heart, to hang her silk sash from the doorknob, drop her medal of the Congregation of the Angels in the alms box, and walk out through the schools' portico arm in arm with her friend, head held high and without deigning once to look back, with that gesture of paramount disdain so commonplace in those of her social class." (Ferré

The Allegory of the Cave in Plato's Republic

1312 words - 5 pages The Allegory of the Cave in Plato's Republic This paper discussed The Allegory of The Cave in Plato's Republic, and tries to unfold the messages Plato wishes to convey with regard to his conception of reality, knowledge and education. THE ALLEGORY OF THE CAVE Plato's "Allegory of the Cave" is a story that conveys his theory of how we come to know, or how we attain true knowledge. It is also an introduction into his metaphysical

Comparing Machiavelli's The Prince and Plato's The Republic

1796 words - 7 pages Comparing Machiavelli's The Prince and Plato's The Republic       Many people in history have written about ideal rulers and states and how to maintain them.  Perhaps the most talked about and compared are Machiavelli's, The Prince and Plato's, The Republic.  Machiavelli lived at a time when Italy was suffering from its political destruction.  The Prince, was written to describe the ways by which a leader may gain and maintain power. In

Similar Essays

The Noble Lie: Plato's Republic Essay

1718 words - 7 pages the foundation from which to form a more sound social and moral order, one that would make the most of the capacities of each individual with in his republic. Plato was not concerned that the story he told was false, he was more focused on the inner more metaphorical truth. He knew that if the people truly believed that the Gods Put different metals in their souls, then they would then accept the social order that it entails, and thus live in a

Justice In Plato's "The Republic" Essay

713 words - 3 pages alternative but to accept the logic of Socrates. In Plato's The Republic, Socrates has been made into an invincible man. There is no argument he cannot win and no point that he cannot refute. In the end his logic and intelligence prove to be too much for Cephalus, Polemarchus, and Thrasymachus. The arguments placed before him were complete enough to be successfully refuted and the intelligence of his opponents was lacking enough to further build up the greatness of Plato's Socrates. Justice can take on many definitions and many forms but to Socrates, they are all wrong.

Democracy In Plato's The Republic Essay

1279 words - 5 pages Democracy in the Republic In Plato's Republic democracy made a controversial issue in a critique by Socrates. The theory of the soul accounts for the controversy as it states that the soul is divided into three parts: the rational, the spirited, and the appetite which are ranked respectively. The idea of the soul's three parts and the soul being ruled by a dominant part is used as the basis for identifying justice and virtue. However, the

The Allegory Of The Cave, From Book Vii Of Plato's Republic

958 words - 4 pages The cave, symbolic of the mother's womb, is the source of life and death. In “The Allegory of the Cave”, from Book VII of Plato’s Republic, the theme of the cycle of life and the transition from the unborn to the deceased is representative of the cycle of entry and exit from the cave. If based upon this idea, one can conclude that the chains are symbolic of the umbilical cord. This concept reflects the Greek values of reproduction, humanism