This website uses cookies to ensure you have the best experience. Learn more

The Quarrel Between Philosophy And Poetry

1336 words - 6 pages

Though Plato’s case when it comes to the Sophists and his distaste for their use of rhetoric is valid, often times he doesn’t make sense of whether poetry, rather than the poet, is what he would consider as “good”. In essence, poetry is the vehicle for poets to take the basics of life which have inspired them, for instance nature, and projecting it onto their readers by bringing it to a heightened state, in this case, nature being presented as a form of unnatural cosmic energy. In Ion, Socrates states, “All good poets, epic as well as lyric, compose their beautiful poems not by skill, but through inspiration and possession” (Ion 7). Though here it can be assumed that “possession” would have a negative connotation to it, and Socrates does reaffirm this, it can subsequently, instead, be substituted as “passion”. Possession entails the poet composes their poems by losing all senses, yet poetry is a combination of senses, for the poet, in short, experiences the basics of life differently than someone who is not a poet. A passionate poet, instead of a possessed poet, doesn’t lose his or her senses but rather uses them to create poetry. Conversely, passion, or even being in the state of what Plato would consider to be irrational, is what consequently makes humankind fully human. The ontology of humans come from many different avenues of influence, but their state of being comes from the quest of insight. The act of coming to truth must be done from the basis of a humans own life. Though philosophy itself is a basis of truth, philosophy functions in poetry, for instance the poets philosophy on a topic, which inherently makes poetry able to be a means of truth as well. An example of this is seen in the Plato’s [book] Phaedrus when in Diotima’s argument she states, “Now, some people are pregnant in body, and for this reason turn more to women and pursue love in that way, providing themselves through childbirth with immortality and remembrance and happiness, as they think, for all to come; while others are pregnant in soul--because there surely are those who are even more pregnant in their souls than in their bodies, and these are pregnant with what is fitting for a soul to bear and bring to birth. And what is fitting? Wisdom and the rest of virtue, which all poets beget, as well as all the craftsmen who are said to be creative.” (56 symposium) Though Plato refers to her as a “perfect sophist” (55 symposium), Diotima’s argument holds leverage when considering poets bring wisdom and even virtue into existence through their poetry.
Nonetheless, the danger that lies in poetry is the intention of the poet as well as the interpretation of an individual who is assuming the role as a reader of poetry which both can hinder rational thought or the gain of knowledge. Specifically, when examining Ion and his love for Homer, Ion doesn’t seem to grasp the perpetuated ideals from the Homeric poetry, rather he becomes enthralled by the poetic language and the beauty of...

Find Another Essay On The Quarrel Between Philosophy and Poetry

A Comparison and Contrast Between the Two Poems, Poetry and Modern Poetry

1215 words - 5 pages comprehend the message behind the words. Worlds change and the literature's change with the trends. The important question is how it should change. During each time period there are people that publish their opinions, but different people have different ideas. Within Poetry and Of Modern Poetry shows the similarities and differences between the two authors, Wallace Stevens and Marianne Moore through three ways: is of the mind, it has to be genuine and

The Relationship Between Mother and Child in Poetry

3974 words - 16 pages The Relationship Between Mother and Child in Poetry Although each of the poems in question (You're, Morning Song, By Candlelight, Nick and the Candlestick and Mary's Song) focuses on the relationship between mother and child, the emotions dealt with in each poem vary quite incredibly. Each poem appears differently on the page: You're and By Candlelight are written in nine-line stanzas, the two poems having two and four respectively

The difference between philosophy and religion (reason and faith)

2137 words - 9 pages Morality and ReligionIntroductionThe issue I intend to tackle in this assignment is the relationship between morality and religion. I will basically explain whether morality depend on religion. It is a common belief among many people that morality and religion are inseparable. Others believe that if any distinction between morality and religion is to be made, then morality can be understood only in the context of religion. This thought about

philosophy essay on the relationship between religion and science

910 words - 4 pages The relationship between religion and science has always been a complicated, precarious and sensitive issue. Religion and science have the same goal - to seek truth and understanding to our own existence and surroundings. Modern scientific thought is based on systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. Religious thought differs as it’s based upon reflection and

Relationship between Romantic Poetry and German Idealism

1353 words - 5 pages David IrahetaProfessor MurataEng 240-V4/28/14 In this paper I will demonstrate how Walt Whitman believes there is a deeper connection between natural and human life. I will use the ideas of German idealist philosophers, primarily Freidrich Wilhelm Von Schelling and Phillip Matthaus Hahn. Through his works Song of Myself and When the lilacs in the last Dooryard Bloom'd, Whitman romanticizes the idea of human and natural life being synchronized

Title: The Tralfamadorian-Vonnegut Philosophy Against War Desc: A comparison between American war philosophys and the Tralfamadorian Philosophy

572 words - 2 pages In Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut the Tralfamadorian philosophy is introduced. The Tralfamadorians don't experience time in a line, and are able to only live in the happy moments if they wish. Vonnegut makes a strong correlation between the Tralfamadorian philosophy and the American war philosophy; killing millions of people for no reason, and then telling the public of how heroic our American soldiers are.The Tralfamadorian philosophy is

The relationship between the philosophy of Plato and the psychology of Freud

1571 words - 6 pages very alike.Although centuries apart, Plato and Freud witnessed the same break up of societies and the collapse of apparently stable social units which had functioned to organize people's sense of themselves for several generations. In this we can almost assume a rapport between the philosophy of Plato and the psychology of Freud, in that both attempt to educate intrapersonally to a different degree. In the excerpt from The Interpretation of

Reflection Paper For Philosophy Of Religion: The Continous Conflict Between Religious Pluralism And Exclusivism

1707 words - 7 pages differences between religions: one versus many gods, personal versus impersonal gods, personal survival of believers versus no survival of believers, moral codes, religious life, etc. As observable in human history, though religions often offer some sort heaven it often paradoxically entails conflicts and controversies. And despite the fact that religions supposedly gives people a sense of what's right or wrong, atrocities have been committed in

The city and philosophy

2184 words - 9 pages To begin the requested examination of the relationship between philosophy and the city, the conditions that must pertain for each concept to appear ought first be recognized and defined. The two most evident conditions that are necessary for the existence of the city are those of plurality and structure, or ordering principles. Based upon these two requirements is evident that the city is the condition that must be present for philosophy to

Philosophy and the Arts

1400 words - 6 pages Philosophy and the Arts Final Philosophers from every period of time and from all around the world use their genius in order to solve philosophical problems dealing with many different fields of study. As they discover reasoning for the things that surround us, they publish their findings into literature in order to share their wealth of knowledge with others. Among the multitude of philosophers that have graced us with their superior knowledge

Discusses these principles of natural order as first established in ancient Chinese philosophy, and how the style of poetry conforms to the basic ideals of the Daoists

1142 words - 5 pages provides us with a means to understand the bases for Daoism. So if we think of Daoism as the "Way", it leads me to ask, "The Way of What?". Fortunately the traditional Chinese teaching of Daoism focuses on the wonder, balance and flow of nature.The supreme idea of Daoism is that nature has an awesome richness and complexity of processes that seem to guide everything to a wonderful balance. Daoism is not really a religion, but more of a philosophy

Similar Essays

The Impact Of The Opening Quarrel Between The Servants In Romeo And Juliet

2489 words - 10 pages The Impact of the Opening Quarrel between the Servants in Romeo and Juliet You can examine the dramatic impact of the opening quarrel between the servants . Show how the petty quarrel that they don’t understand immediately creates an atmosphere of dissension and violence. Look at the sordid jokes that these uneducated

The Connections Between Poetry And Science

1562 words - 7 pages different meaning and feel from poems I wrote over a year ago than what I remember feeling about them at the time they were written. It is all frames of mind and the emotions behind the poems. For me, as a chemistry major, I make connections between poetry and science. While there are fundamental differences between the two there are many ways that they relate back to each other. My experiences with the language of science and chemistry influence

Chinese Shih Poetry And Philosophy Essay

1112 words - 4 pages exact form of poetry does put forth the ideas. Nowhere is this more exemplified than in the literature pertaining to the two major schools of ancient Chinese thought; Taoism and Confucianism. Poets such as Tu Fu and Po Chü-i expressed the ideas of Taoism and Confucianism, respectively, while their fellow poet T’ao Ch’ien expressed both, through their poetry.      Confucianism is based on the ideas of Confucius, the man who

Poetry Essay Distinguishing The Differences And Similiarities Between Poetry And Advertising

2041 words - 8 pages work - they are confined no more. Such is the case of poetry and advertising. Could advertising be poetry? Whilst there are obvious similarities between the two as will be seen in the following discussion of the poem "All the World's a Stage" and the advertisement "Google + Tom" such understanding underestimates the power of language evident in poetry. to make meaning of this world. So what is poetry? According to --&gt